Curse

House Silvermoon · Sep 17, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

So far this is the most complete and edited version of what could be added to the game to make things that are under used worth doing as well as some tweaks to make life for the pver a lot easier. soon i will add a hero skill usage section that will outline what skills heros need to use better or at all for that matter. sadly these updates will take a while because it will be long to write and i have school to attend to, mainly tests and reading. keep posting ideas, suggestions, and general discussion on what i have said and what could possibly be done. thank you for the support.

Prophecies

-add both normal and elite armor for the Assassin, Ritualist, Paragon, and Dervish

***change henchmen skill bars as follows***

Stefan: Crippling Slash, Gash, Standing Slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rush, Resurrection Signet

Little Thorn: Eviscerate, Agonizing Chop, Executioner's Strike, Disrupting Chop, Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rush, Resurrection Signet

Devona: Devastating Hammer, Crushing Blow, Yeti Smash, Counter Blow, Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rush, Resurrection Signet

Aidian and Reyna: Incendiary Arrows, Distracting Shot, Savage Shot, Antidote Signet, Apply Poison, Natural Stride, Troll Unguent, Resurrection Signet

Mhenlo and Alesia: Word of Healing, Patient Spirit, Signet of Rejuvenation, Protective Spirit, Dismiss Condition, Deny Hex, Divine Spirit, Resurrection Chant

Lina: Restore Condition, Reversal of Fortune, Guardian, Shield of Absorption, Protective Spirit, Deny Hex, Divine Spirit, Resurrection Chant

Eve and Claude: Vampiric Spirit, Angorodon's Gaze, Vampiric Gaze, Unholy Feast, Signet of Agony, Strip Enchantment, Blood Ritual, Resurrection Signet

Dunham: Ineptitude, Clumsiness, Wandering Eye, Drain Enchantment, Waste Not Want Not, Cry of Frustration, Power Drain, Leech Signet, Resurrection Signet

Cynn and Orion: Mind Blast, Rodgort's Invocation, Glowing Gaze, Searing Heat, Meteor Shower, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Fire Attunement, Resurrection Signet

Factions

-add celestial and zodiac skins for scythes, spears, and paragon shields

-triple the reward for the challenge missions. the reward for beating a record or any special drops from the mission will remain untouched

-add faction rewards for completing missions on both kurzick and luxon sides. 500 faction in normal mode and 1000 faction in hard mode.

-add both normal and elite armor for the Paragon and Dervish

-add a crafter who crafts gold versions of endgame skins and remove endgame skins as drops from Urgoz and the Deep

***change henchmen skill bars as follows***

-Devona, Aidan, Cynn, and Eve: keep their Prophecies bar

-Lukas and Seaguard Eli: Dragon Slash, Sever Artery, Gash, Sun and Moon Slash, Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rush, Resurrection Signet

-Talon Silverwing: Crippling Slash, Gash, Standing Slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rush, Resurrection Signet

-Aurora: Enraged Lunge, Disrupting Lunge, Feral Lunge, Savage Pounce, Call of Haste, Comfort Animal, Charm Animal, Resurrection Signet

-Daeman: Broadhead Arrow, Distracting Shot, Savage Shot, Antidote Signet, Barbed Arrows, Natural Stride, Troll Unguent, Resurrection Signet

-Zho and Yuun: Melandru's Shot, Distracting Shot, Savage Shot, Antidote Signet, Apply Poison, Natural Stride, Troll Unguent, Resurrection Signet

-Brutus: Spiteful Spirit, Reckless Haste, Insidious Parasite, Suffering, Enfeebling Blood, Rip Enchantment, Signet of Lost Souls, Resurrection Signet

-Sheena and Su: Icy Veins, Putrid Bile, Rising Bile, Vile Miasma, Putrid Explosion, Withering Aura, Signet of Lost Souls, Resurrection Signet

-Erys Vasburg: Psychic Instability, Empathy, Backfire, Drain Enchantment, Cry of Frustration, Power Drain, Leech Signet, Resurrection Signet

-Lo Sha and Seaguard Hala: Ineptitude, Clumsiness, Wandering Eye, Drain Enchantment, Waste Not Want Not, Cry of Frustration, Power Drain, Leech Signet, Resurrection Signet

-Argo: Mind Blast, Rodgort's Invocation, Glowing Gaze, Tenai's Heat, Argo's Cry, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Fire Attunement, Resurrection Signet

-Headmaster Vhang and Kisai: Blinding Surge, Lightning Strike, Shock Arrow, Enervating Charge, Lightning Orb, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Air Attunement, Resurrection Signet

-Kai Ying: Unsteady Ground, Eruption, Ebon Hawk, Ward Against Melee, Ward Against Elements, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Earth Attunement, Resurrection Signet

-Aeson and Professor Gai: Caretaker's Charge, Weapon of Warding, Soothing Memories, Mend Body and Soul, Protective Was Kaolai, Empowerment, Recovery, Death Pact Signet

-Chiyo: Caretaker's Charge, Weapon of Warding, Soothing Memories, Mend Body and Soul, Protective Was Kaolai, Rejuvenation, Life, Death Pact Signet

-Emi, Panaku, and Mai: Golden Fox Strike, Wild Strike, Shattering Assault, Impale, Assassin's Remedy, Critical Defenses, Critical Eye, Resurrection Signet

-Nika: Golden Fox Strike, Wild Strike, Death Blossom, Impale, Way of the Assassin, Assassin's Remedy, Critical Defenses, Resurrection Signet

-Redemptor Karl and Seaguard Gita: Life Sheath, Reversal of Fortune, Guardian, Protective Spirit, Dismiss Condition, Deny Hex, Divine Spirit, Resurrection Chant

-Danika, Sister Tai, and Taya: Word of Healing, Patient Spirit, Signet of Rejuvenation, Protective Spirit, Dismiss Condition, Deny Hex, Divine Spirit, Resurrection Chant

Nightfall

-triple the reward for the challenge missions and increase the drop rate of hero armor. the reward for beating a record will remain untouched

-add a crafter who crafts gold versions of Forgotten skins

-add normal armor for the Assassin, Ritualist

***change henchmen skill bars as follows***

-Devona, Mhenlo, Aidan, Cynn, and Eve: keep their Prophecies bar

-Timera: Crippling Slash, Gash, Standing Slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rush, Resurrection Signet

-Abasi: Burning Arrow, Distracting Shot, Savage Shot, Antidote Signet, Apply Poison, Natural Stride, Troll Unguent, Resurrection Signet

-Kihm: Zealous Benediction, Reversal of Fortune, Guardian, Protective Spirit, Dismiss Condition, Deny Hex, Divine Spirit, Resurrection Chant

-Odurra: Visions of Regret, Empathy, Backfire, Drain Enchantment, Cry of Frustration, Power Drain, Leech Signet, Resurrection Signet

-Herta: Unsteady Ground, Eruption, Ebon Hawk, Ward Against Melee, Ward Against Elements, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Earth Attunement, Resurrection Signet

-Sogolon: Song of Restoration, Blazing Spear, Wild Throw, "Go For The Eyes!", Anthem of Flame, Ballad of Restoration, Aggressive Refrain, Signet of Return

-Gehraz: Wounding Strike, Mystic Sweep, Chilling Victory, Enchanted Haste, Attacker's Insight, Heart of Fury, Faithful Intervention, Resurrection Signet

Urgoz Warren

-add celestial weapons to the drop list of monsters, chests, and the end chest

-change the end chest drop from what it is now to: 3 gold/green items, 6 ambers, and 500 kurzick faction on normal mode and 6 gold/green items, 12 amber, and 1000 kurzick faction on hard mode

-add Kurzick Blessing to area

The Deep

-add celestial weapons to the drop list of monsters, chests, and the end chest

-change the end chest drop from what it is now to: 3 gold/green items, 6 jades, and 500 luxon faction on normal mode and 6 gold/green items, 12 jades, and 1000 luxon faction on hard mode

-add Luxon Blessing to area

Domain of Anguish

-increase the current gemstone drops from the completion chests to 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 in normal mode and 3 - 6 - 9 - 12 in hard mode

-increase Mallyx chest drop to 3 drops in normal mode and 6 drops in hard mode

Eye of the North

-make polymock pieces account based

-add a crafter who crafts gold versions of Droknar's skins

-increase the reputation points at the completion of the dungeon by 3 times

-increase the drops for the following dungeons to 2 in normal mode and 4 in hard mode
Arachni's Haunt
Bloodstone Caves
Bogroot Growths
Darkrime Delves
Heart of the Shiverpeaks
Oola's Lab
Ooze Pit
Raven's Point
Sepulchre of Dragrimmar

-increase the drops for the following dungeons to 3 in normal mode and 6 in hard mode
Catacombs of Kathandrax
Frostmaw's Burrows
Shards of Orr
Vloxen Excavations

***change henchmen skill bars as follows***

-Devona, Mhenlo, Aidan, Cynn, Eve, and Lina: keep their Prophecies bar
-Lo Sha and Talon keeps his Factions bar
-Herta keeps her Nightfall bar

-Zho: Broadhead Arrow, Distracting Shot, Savage Shot, Antidote Signet, Barbed Arrows, Natural Stride, Troll Unguent, Resurrection Signet

Sorrow's Furance

-add a sorrow's chest at the end of every quest which has the chance to drop any green from that area along with gold items, gems, and lockpicks/keys

-chests for all quests have 2 drops in normal mode and 4 in hard mode. the last quest will have 3 drops in normal mode and 6 in hard mode

Vanquishing

-increase the gold and experience for vanquishing to 15 times the monsters

Traders

-add a weapons modifier trader and a normal tome trader to towns, outposts, cities, and guild halls (not elite tomes)

Titles

-change the treasure hunter and wisdom titles to account based and this goes for their benefit as well. for those that have multiple characters with chests and wisdom we will simply add your totals up to make the new title.

Hall of Monuments

-allow people to change display orders any way they see fit not a random ordering like it is now

-allow gold versions of Deldrimor weapons, Droknar's weapons, Forgotten weapons, Zodiac weapons, Celestial weapons, and endgame factions weapons to be displayed

-for endgame greens to be a bit easier to obtain allow endgame rewards to be reacquired after beating the final missions in hard mode

-add a statue for completion of Tomb of the Primeval Kings and for the Titan Quests

Heros and Henchmen

-make it that when the party engages the enemy, frontline charges in first while the mid/backline spreads out

-give the heros and henchmen better aoe detection so that they know where the aoe is and how to escape it quickly

-make it that the frontline won't stray too far from the backline. no more then slightly beyond earshot.

House Silvermoon · Sep 17, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

i am thinking of changes for tombs but i am not too sure what to do about that place. i am also thinking of new henchmen bars that will make henchmen a semi viable option for people. it was a lot more text so i will throw out what i have now and add more soon.

i will be reading the feedback so plz reply.

TurinPT · Sep 17, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

We should totally have a section for game suggestions... oh wait

mastar of warrior · Sep 17, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by TurinPT

We should totally have a section for game suggestions... oh wait

that makes no sense

i think its a good idea actually

House Silvermoon · Sep 17, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

well its not really a suggestion more of a petition to anet to make these changes happen. i was planning on emailing this to them but i have it on the forum first to get people's ideas and feedback. and if the devs somehow stumble on it before i mail it. that will save me time

sixofone · Sep 17, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

They'll just move this to the appropriate section.

I don't know about the suggested changes - making certain drops more frequent/less rare affects their value, and that will upset some people.

I do agree, however, that I like a reward commensurate with the challenge! It sucks to battle through a difficult area and manage to kill the boss(-es, some have 2 or more grouped together), only to have them drop nothing. There needs to be a balance as these kinds of challenges can be played thru over and over again (i.e., farming).

Cyb3r · Sep 17, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

i like the suggestions right now doing all the dungeons on my para (have to redo em on my ele, but doing them first on my imbagon to save from misstakes for those i haven't done yet) and the rewards are a joke some dungeons take around an hour and a half and what do i get?

A lousy 1.5K and a gold item (that in 90% of the cases is crap or nothing worth) and 1.5k in random drops. In the same time i could have made alot more money doing just regular quests most of the time.

Ate of DK · Sep 17, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Some of the increased drops sound good but the gemstones and urgoz in HM are a bit too much... I think 8 gamestones from the last chest in HM is allready very generous. Urgoz is easier than the Deep imo. But in the end, increasing drops/droprate isn''t keeping players. New content however is. During he gamesconvention 2008 interview with Izzy he said the team are working on new skins and more.

Cloud5646 · Sep 17, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

You forgot about the Challenge Missions, mainly the Factions ones, those are really underrated IMO.

It's so fun to do the Zos Shivros mission, Withstand the oncoming waves!

skitzinoc · Sep 17, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

I like the last three ideas, Traders, Titles, and HoM

But the rest don't seem to to accomplish what your talking about. Increase the gold and drops, but once every thing is increased and it is the norm how long till we need another increase to make it not boring again?

To tell you the truth I'm not sure there is much more that can be done with this title to add new features that will really keep people from getting bored with it. I think this may be part of the reason they are working on the 2nd title.......

I want wearable trophies, Salutations in front of your name for accomplishments as well as titles you have earned (this would introduce new accomplishments and a new system, I would have to make a new post to explain this idea which means it is probably something that could not be implemented) , truly elite areas not accesable unless you have earned it (beat UW and FOW for example), and an auction house

I also want Darkfall to go beta already....

RazmO- · Sep 17, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Didnt read all of your thread.. but I loled at most of it.
8 golds from 1 HM dungeon chest ? you got to be kidding me.
Also 8drops from urgoz/deep chests..seriously wth?
16 gems from the last HM chest at DoA ?
You are pretty much begging for money.

The only idea that I liked is let us order the HoM in the order that we want , the rest is pretty much bullshit.

I Will Heal You Ally · Sep 17, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Hmmm very smart changes. I'd love to see at least some of them implemented...

Factions Elites have become abandoned

which is sad considering they were a lot of fun to do

glacialphoenix · Sep 17, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by skitzinoc

But the rest don't seem to to accomplish what your talking about. Increase the gold and drops, but once every thing is increased and it is the norm how long till we need another increase to make it not boring again?

I agree - you cannot have too large an increase (8 drops from one chest is overboard, really). Maybe 2-3 drops, 4 at the very, very max.

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Hall of Monuments

-allow people to change display orders any way they see fit not a random ordering like it is now

I like this one.

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Vanquishing

-increase the gold and experience for vanquishing to 10 times the monsters

This one... is debatable. I know I would personally like more gold for vanquishing, but then I also acknowledge I'm not doing it for the gold.

Demonstar · Sep 17, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

You're being too generous with your rewards.

We don't need tome traders, we have skill trainers. If elite tomes were sold at traders skill capping would become obsolete.

Arduin · Sep 17, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Increasing the droprate will make the drops less common, which is a big reason for people to QQ about. Sure, you'll get Urgoz's Longbow * 3, but there's no-one who wants to buy it from you.

All the suggestions on Traders, Titles and Hall of Monuments are suggestions that have been voiced numerous times already. Still would like to see them implemented though.

Richardt · Sep 17, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

The increased drop ideas are just silly and not needed.

I do like the idea of zodiac/celestial spears/scythes. And the account wide treasure hunter/wisdom has been asked for a while now-something I hope they do implement.

About your HoM changes-should be able to select what order things are shown. But I don't know if you noticed, but Tormented Weapons are being added in a future Update.

House Silvermoon · Sep 17, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by Cloud5646

You forgot about the Challenge Missions, mainly the Factions ones, those are really underrated IMO.

It's so fun to do the Zos Shivros mission, Withstand the oncoming waves!

ah ty for bringing that up i'll try and think of something for them.

House Silvermoon · Sep 17, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

no not elite tomes just normal tomes to be sold but maybe thats a bad idea in general? hmm i'll have to ponder that. no more extra drops u say i guess the buff to the reward chest is nice and btw urgoz might be ez but it takes a lot longer then the deep to complete so thats y it gets a higher reward.

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Originally Posted by RazmO-

Didnt read all of your thread.. but I loled at most of it.
8 golds from 1 HM dungeon chest ? you got to be kidding me.
Also 8drops from urgoz/deep chests..seriously wth?
16 gems from the last HM chest at DoA ?
You are pretty much begging for money.

The only idea that I liked is let us order the HoM in the order that we want , the rest is pretty much bullshit.

hmm i dont think its bullshit rly. its to reward the player for spending 1.5-4 hrs to do said mission and to make up for the fact that farming atm outpays elite missions. and y dont u tell me how to get people to enjoy these missions? if more drops are not enuf reward then wut is?

remember guys its about time put in vs reward. i've seen a lot of people say omgz i did that dungeon for 3 hrs but i could of been farming and gotten better stuff. so just balancing out the reward with the time will make that same person feel like they werent wasting time. and adds to the fun because u actually feel good that the end of ur run instead of like u were ripped off.

G E A R S · Sep 17, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

/signed

like he said when i spend 1.5 hours to 4 hours i want a reward that is greater than 4 raptor farming runs

House Silvermoon · Sep 17, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

oh yea bout the HoM change i did hear of that but i wanted to put it in the list anyway for completeness sake.